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The Moon Hoax – Srila Prabhupada’s Angles

The Great Moon Hoax

Exposed by Srila Prabhupada from numerous angles

Compiled by Vidura Mahatma das, with small comment at end.

The Point

“Apart from this discussion, the point is that a living entity has immense and unlimited desires for material enjoyment, and he has to transmigrate from one gross body to another until these desires are exhausted.” (SB 4.29.69 purport)

Srila-Prabhupada on moon hoax“Even you go to the Moon planet… This is Bhāgavata. Before going to your Moon planet here is the information: “Anywhere you go rascal these things will follow, janma-mṛtyu-jarā-vyādhi [Bg. 13.9] and inconveniences. You’ll have to suffer.” So one’s who’s, one who is intelligent, then: “Where shall I find real happiness?” That is Kṛṣṇa. Therefore one requires to be very, very intelligent to become Kṛṣṇa conscious.” (Room Conversation — November 1, 1973, New Delhi)

 

Can’t travel 95,000,000 miles in four days at 18,000 mph.

“My challenge is that moon is beyond the sun. First planet is sun, and then moon. So if the sun is 93,000,000 miles and moon is above the sun 1,600,000, then how they can go to the moon planet in four days? It requires seven and a half months. That is my challenge.” (Room Conversation — January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara)


“We have already discussed this point in many places. The sun is first, then the moon, then Mars, Jupiter and so on. The sun is supposed to be 93,000,000 miles above the surface of the earth, and from the Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam we understand that the moon is 1,600,000 miles above the sun. Therefore the distance between the earth and the moon would be about 95,000,000 miles. So if a space capsule were traveling at the speed of 18,000 miles per hour, how could it reach the moon in four days? At that speed, going to the moon would take at least seven months. That a space capsule on a moon excursion has reached the moon in four days is therefore impossible.” (SB 8.10.38 purport)


“So far we understand from Vedic literature, the moon is the second planet. The sun is the first planet. If we consider like that, then moon is beyond the sun planet. The estimation is there in the Srimad-Bhag avatam: 1,600,000 miles above the sun the moon is situated. Now, if we take consideration of the sun planet situated 93,000,000 miles from earth, then add 1,600,000 miles again, it comes to 15,000,000…, 95,000,000’s miles away from the earthly planet. And how you can reach there in four days, 95,000,000 miles away? If we apply our common sense, then it appears they have never gone to the moon planet. It is all bogus propaganda. It is not possible.”


Devotee: Did they actually land on the moon, Śrīla Prabhupāda?

Prabhupāda: No, they cannot go there. What is the question of landing? They cannot go there. It is far, far away. What you calculated? 1,600,000 miles away, up the sun planet. 1,600,000 miles above the sun. According to your calculation, the sun is away from this planet by 93,000,000 miles. And above that, 1,600,000 miles. Then you go to the moon. How it is possible?   (Morning Walk — May 27, 1975, Honolulu)


Not going to the moon but to the planet Rahu.

“The failure of modern moon excursionists may be due to the Rahu planet. In other words, those who are supposed to be going to the moon may actually be going to this invisible planet Rahu. Actually, they are not going to the moon but to the planet Rahu, and after reaching this planet, they come back. Apart from this discussion, the point is that a living entity has immense and unlimited desires for material enjoyment, and he has to transmigrate from one gross body to another until these desires are exhausted.” (SB 4.29.69 purport)


If they went there, they wouldn’t want to come back.

Prabhupāda: …it is a common sense affair that if somebody takes the trouble of doing so many things for the last ten or twenty years and go there and touch the moon planet, come back, it is successful. So it may be complacence for him, but I don’t think it is success. Why should I take so much trouble to touch the moon planet, come back? (chuckling) I have no useless time for that thing.
Reporter: Well, I think that what you’re saying, that it is also not strictly impossible for someone to go there and be able to come back, that many conditions would have to change for them to do that, but you wouldn’t rule out as impossible. Is that right?
Prabhupāda: No. Actually, if anyone goes there, he’ll not like to come back. …Otherwise, he will give false information, that “I went there and touched it and came back.” (Interview with LA Times Reporter About Moon Trip — December 26, 1968, Los Angeles)


As simple as the days of the week

“Among the planets, the first is Surya, the sun, not the moon. Therefore, according to the Vedic version, the modern astronomer’s proposition that the moon is nearest to the earth should not be accepted. The chronological order in which people all over the world refer to the days of the week–Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday–corresponds to the Vedic order of the planets and thus circumstantiates the Vedic version.” (SB 8.18.5 purport)


How can we believe that the maintainer of vegetation has no vegetation on his own planet?

“It is understood from this verse that the predominating deity of the moon is the maintainer of all the trees and plants throughout the universe. It is due to the moonshine that trees and plants grow very luxuriantly. Therefore how can we accept the so-called scientists whose moon expeditions have informed us that there are no trees or vegetation on the moon? Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura says, somo vrksadhisthata sa eva vrksanam raja: Soma, the predominating deity of the moon, is the king of all vegetation. How can we believe that the maintainer of vegetation has no vegetation on his own planet?” (SB 6.4.6, purport)


“So moon is not desert. These are simply rascals. They do not know anything, and rascals believe that the moon is desert, and the sun is desert. Only this planet is full of variety and beauty. No. We have to take lessons from the sastras.” (Garden Conversation, October 9th, 1976, Aligarh)


“From the descriptions in this verse, we can make an educated guess about the nature of the flames on the moon. Like the sun, the moon must also be full of flames because without flames there cannot be illumination. The flames on the moon, however, unlike those on the sun, must be mild and pleasing. This is our conviction. The modern theory that the moon is full of dust is not accepted in the verses of Śrīmad-Bhāgavatam.” (SB 5.20.13 purport)


Can’t just build a staircase to heaven!

Madhudviṣa: The demons are trying to go to the heavenly planets by building their skyscrapers higher and higher.
Prabhupāda: Rāvaṇa’s, Rāvaṇa’s staircase for going to the heaven. He promised that “Oh, what is the use of austerity? I shall make a staircase directly. You can go.” As their… It is the same, Rāvaṇa’s staircase and the modern attempt to go to the moon planet, the same thing. They will never be able to go, but imagining that “We shall do it.” The same process, Rāvaṇa’s process.


Moon rocks should also be shinning

Guru kṛpā: The all-American family. If the moon is illuminating the earth at night, then how come you have brought back dull pieces of rock. They should have also been shining.
Prabhupāda: Yes. That is a common sense.


Real science vs. fake science

Śrutakīrti: The planets are not orbiting the sun.
Prabhupāda: No, no. They have got their different orbits.
Guru kṛpā: This is real science, to know these facts.
Prabhupāda: Yes.
Guru kṛpā: So how can you prove that?
Prabhupāda: Vedic literature.

(Morning Walk — May 27, 1975, Honolulu )


Laboratory work bluff

Prabhupāda: …First of all I said that they might have gone to the Rahu planet.
Harikeśa: Yes, the Fourth Canto.
Prabhupāda: Yes. First of all my conviction: they have gone nowhere. They have simply stayed in their laboratory, that’s all.
Indian man: Anyone can do that, bring some pictures and bring a rock.
Paramahaṁsa: Śrīla Prabhupāda, I think somebody might have told you before, but there was a big scandal right after the moon shot when they said they went to the moon and…, that it was all staged in the desert of Arizona, that they…
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is the fact.
Bali-mardana: When Puruṣottama heard that, he blooped. (Devotees continue laughing.)

(Morning Walk, June 2nd, 1975, Honolulu)


Prabhupāda: They invented stories for going to the moon planet.

Svarūpa Dāmodara: Yeah, they’re making stories about everything.
Prabhupāda: A small toy sputnik, background, a big picture, and photograph.

(Talk with Svarūpa Dāmodara—June 20, 1977, Vṛndāvana)


Dr. Patel: I have heard that the man could have first landed on moon and then…

Prabhupada: Nobody landed. This is all bogus. (Morning Walk, November 3rd, 1975, Bombay)


“Don’t expose me. I will not expose you.”

Prabhupāda: Yes. Simply propaganda. They are not going. Now the Russian scientist and American scientist are combined. Because both of them thieves, so one thief is asking, “Don’t expose me. I will not expose you, so that our business will go on.” This is the way. “Let us combine together and cheat these rascals, and otherwise, if you expose me, then I will expose you. Then our business will stop.”


We have got our faith in Kṛṣṇa, they have got their faith in scientists.

Prabhupāda: [break] And if we don’t believe that they have gone to moon planet, they will reject us. They will immediately take as “Oh, these people are crazy.” Even if you give sufficient reason or argument, they will not take it. That is their obstinacy.
Rāmeśvara: They’re convinced by the photographs.
Prabhupāda: Eh?
Rāmeśvara: They have some photographs of the men in the spacesuits walking around on that other planet.
Kīrtanānanda: But they are convinced because the scientists have told them. They believe the scientists. They have faith, and the scientists can tell them anything, and they’ll believe it.
Prabhupāda: Yes, that is…. That is the disease.
Kīrtanānanda: They have put faith. Everyone has faith. You cannot live without having faith in somebody. So they put their faith in the scientists, and we are saying it is wrong.
Hari-śauri: Nobody could possibly believe that the scientists would cheat them. They think they are very intelligent, honest men.
Prabhupāda: No, we have got our faith—in Kṛṣṇa. Similarly, they have got their faith—in scientists.

(Morning Walk—June 11, 1976, Los Angeles)


They have gone to moon planet. Then our whole propaganda, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, becomes bogus.

Prabhupāda: Kalau śūdra-sambhavaḥ. “In this age, Kali-yuga, all śūdras.” Therefore they accept everything cheaply and at once, the śūdras.
Śyāmasundara: Cheaply and at once?
Prabhupāda: At once. Yes. The newspaper said that “Mr. such and such went to moon planet.” Oh, immediately believe. See? A newspaper, ten cent worth newspaper. And in the Bhagavad-gītā Kṛṣṇa says, yānti deva vratā devān: [Bg. 9.25] “One who can… One can go to the demigods planets by worshiping them. You can go, yānti deva vratā devān, as others. Similarly, one can come to Me by worshiping Me.” Mad yājino ‘pi yānti mām. So they never worshiped Chandra, and how they can go to the Chandra planet, or moon planet? Then Kṛṣṇa is false. Kṛṣṇa is imperfect. They become perfect. They are defying Kṛṣṇa’s instruction. They have gone to moon planet. Then our whole propaganda, Kṛṣṇa consciousness, becomes bogus. Therefore I always protest.
Sudāmā: They have not gone.
Prabhupāda: They have not gone. We have got our tests. I am speaking from the very beginning, “They have not gone.”


Even If

“Accepting they reached the moon planet, they might have gone to the part where it is desert or barren land, because in each and every planet there is such possibility. In our, this planet also, when I was passing through the Suez Canal, it is horrible desert. So if somebody drops in that Arabian desert and concludes that there is no living entity in this planet, it is simply foolish. Similarly, these people are going, maybe going… First of all, I don’t believe they have gone, frankly speaking. Even they have gone, they are landing in some part of the moon planet where there is no inhabitation.” (Lecture: Srimad-Bhagavatam 6.1.6 — Bombay, November 6, 1970)


You should not go to modern scientists for perfect knowledge

“If you are looking for some excuse to doubt, then maya will always provide you. So this or that you may find out something flaw if you want. But Krsna says surrender unto Me and I will give you all protection, perfect knowledge of everything. You should not go to modern scientists for perfect knowledge. They cannot supply that. Krsna will supply you. Of course, sometimes there is allegorical reference in the Vedas, just like the body is called the city of nine gates, like that, so we may sometimes misunderstand due to our imperfect reading. Even it is true that they have landed on the moon, so what is their accomplishment? If I come to Earth planet and land in the Sahara desert, then I say, “Oh, this planet is a barren desert, no one lives here?” The moon may be like that or like this, so what does that help to our Krsna consciousness movement. We have nothing to do with moon planet or this planet and that planet in Krsna consciousness. We simply want to serve to Krsna, that’s all. Do not be disturbed by these things. Simply go on with your work in positive mood. That will be best for you and for other also. After all intelligence to understand Krsna is not within the range of your material senses. You cannot make any experiments and calculations and expect to find Krsna. But if somehow or other you are fortunate enough to find out a pure devotee of the Lord, then you get opportunity to him, and as you surrender Krsna gives you the intelligence by which you may come to him, that is sure. No other process will give us any intelligence to understand things as they are, except Krsna consciousness.” (1977 Correspondence: September: Letter)


 

Author’s comment: Some people argue that the moon being further or higher than the sun, as described in the Srimad-bhagavatam, is open to interpretation as far as whether that means it would take longer to travel to the moon than the sun. This argument is there because the modern day scientists claim the sun is 93 million miles away from earth, and that the moon is only 239 thousand miles from earth. In other words, modern science teaches that the moon is much, much closer to earth than the sun is.

If the Srimad-bhagavatam’s description is in terms of distance, there is no controversy whatsoever that there is a direct contradiction between modern science and Vedic knowledge. Consequently, in a devotee’s mind, there would be no doubt that man has never traveled to the moon – it is all a great hoax.

So who do we leave this interpretation to? Sadaputa dasa, one of Srila Prabhupada’s scientist disciples appointed by him to explain the Vedic version of the planetary system to the western world, wrote a great deal on this subject matter. Sadaputa dasa in his book ultimately leaves the matter up to interpretation. But in effect, what Sadaputa dasa is doing is contradicting Srila Prabhupada, because Srila Prabhupada did not leave the matter up to interpretation. Or rather, Srila Prabhupada gives his interpretation of the Srimad-bhagavatam’s statements on this matter, and every devotee should know the significance of Srila Prabhupada’s opinion, who is situated above the four defects (i.e., mistakes).

Srila Prabhupada consistently insisted that, based on what the Bhagavatam says, it would take longer to travel to the moon from earth than to the sun, and that, therefore, according to their own calculations, modern astronauts could never have traveled to the moon planet.

The statements of the Vedas are our proof. And if the Vedas are unclear to us (which they are without the help of a spiritual master), we must depend on Srila Prabhupada’s vision of the Vedas. Nobody today except for Srila Prabhupada is able to bring us the purports of the Vedas. That is why his books are the books we read from during class, study and preach from. By the words emanating from his lotus mouth all the purports of the Vedas are revealed. It’s important for every devotee to remember this and then we can effectively help the world accept Vedic authority over ever-changing modern speculative theory.

31 thoughts on “The Moon Hoax – Srila Prabhupada’s Angles

  1. The following comment by Praghosa prabhu appeared on another forum:

    __________ prabhu,

    PAMHO AGTSP

    You state:

    “Please forgive me for repeating myself, but these moon hoax theorists are self-motivated people who’s dogmatic religion is that the moon landings were a hoax. Even when Japan, China and/or India go to the moon and photograph the Apollo astronaut’s footprints on the surface of the moon, they will still make up some foolish concoction to try and explain them away so that they can sell more books and videos to a gullible public!”

    Amongst most devotees I know – this is not an important issue. However – your comment above fails to convey a correct perception for why ANY devotee would have ever really bothered with the subject in the first place; the assertions made by our Spiritual Master from the day the alleged landings occurred in July of 1969 – until as late as 1977.

    He was the first person I personally ever encountered anywhere – who even broached the subject. He not only suggested that the moon landings were a “bluff” and/or “hoax” but in fact – he insisted that this was in fact the case. He offered various ways of approaching the matter – all with the ultimate point of exposing the “blind faith” of people in general in the material scientists and the governments who move under their influence. From simple comments like “all over the world Sunday comes before Monday on the calender – to “the Bhagavatam insists that the Sun is closer to the earth than the moon” both defied mundane logic and accepted science – and forced us all to consider just how little tangible evidence ever supports much or most of what the scientists, religionists and politicians affirm.

    So you have a little background in physics and this makes you the exception to Srila Prabhupada’s comments and/or his purpose for expressing them?

    Don’t think so my friend.

    Easy Journey to Other Planets is filled with comments on this so-called “space travel” and they are perfect.

    Srila Prabhupada had his reasons for identifying the entire project as a bluff and a hoax. We just accept it – even if we cannot fully explain it to anyone’s, everyone’s or your satisfaction.

    When you scoff at such simple reactions to the words of Srila Prabhupada – by anyone – inside or outside of his shelter – you offer more evidence as to your own conditioning and bias than you do on the condition or motivation of others.

    Srila Prabhupada chuckled at the uselessness of it all. Whether they went or did not – we could no more eat the dust they purported to dig up and bring with them on their return – than we could the “nuts and bolts” he likewise insisted were equally inedible and therefore without any “real” value. This was the very bright heart of the derision and doubt he cast upon the whole venture. He did this for our benefit. He did not insert his views on the subject – calling it hoax and bluff – in order to “make up some foolish concoction to try and explain them away so that he could sell more books and videos to a gullible public!”

    Respectfully

    Praghosa

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  2. Nowadays, thanks to YouTube and to the Internet in general, it’s easy to prove that man set foot on the moon:

    Five proofs that man landed on the moon:

    1. The laser reflector that suddenly appeared on the lunar surface after Apollo 11. Scientists all over the world then began using it to measure the distance to the moon with incredible accuracy.

    2. The fact that a huge radio telescope in Australia relayed the conversation between President Nixon and the Apollo 11 astronauts when they were on the lunar surface. Do you think that it was just a coincidence that the telescope happened to be pointed directly at the moon at the time? Do you think that those eccentric, independent minded Aussie astrophysicists were part of some kind of international conspiracy that no one, even on their death beds, has ever admitted to?

    3. The fairly recent high resolution photographs of the lunar landing sites which clearly show the meandering footpaths of the Apollo astronauts. ()

    4. A 47 second video: “Feather & Hammer Drop on Moon.” ()

    5. A 2 minute video: “Proof We Landed on the Moon: It’s In the Dust.” ()

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  3. Srila Prabhupada says:

    “In 1968 I was questioned by the reporters, “What is your opinion about this moon?” “It is simply a waste of time and energy, that’s all. It is all false propaganda.” I told to the reporter.” (Morning Walk — June 2, 1975, Honolulu)

    “My challenge is that moon is beyond the sun. First planet is sun, and then moon.”
    (Room Conversation — January 30, 1977, Bhuvanesvara)

    Pratyatosa das said on Facebook:

    “I admit it. I do not agree with Srila Prabhupada that the moon is further away than the sun.” (10/2/2015)

    Srila Prabhupada says:

    “Unless you cent percent agree with the spiritual master’s opinion or philosophy, there is no need of accepting a spiritual master.”

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  4. According to ISKCON’s #1 scientist, Sadaputa Prabhu, there’s no conflict between the Bhagavatam and modern science. He has explained to us that the statements in the Bhagavatam that the moon is further away than the sun simply means distance away from the plain of Bhu-mandala. The plain of Bhu-mandala is the plain of the ecliptic, so modern astronomers would agree with these statements.

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